So Apple killed the iMac Pro, now it is all about seeing what video options M1 Macs have

 

So I got an iMac Pro because my old Mac Pro 4,1 died, and there was no new MacPro out as of yet. It was obviously a stop gap machine, and it’s only ugprade was removing the lowest multi-core version and an upgrade to the Radeon Pro Vega 64x 16 GB from the Vega 64 16GB, which is just a slight speed increase.

And the latest 27 inch iMac can in fact beat the performance for the iMac Pro. The top of the line can be upgraded to a 3.6GHz 10 Core Intel-Core i9 with turbo boost to 5.0GHZ, it can have up to 128GB of RAM, up to an 8TB internal SSD, an the top video card is a Radeo Pro 5700 XT  with 16GB of GDDR6 Memory. This machine should smash the 10 Core iMac Pro in performance, and the Xeon’s never really added anything to the Mac except multi-core and the ability to have dual processors. And you can even get the Matte finish from the MacPro displays for half the price, which is impressive, but they need a second display like that to match the price and look.

It is likely that the next M1 or it’s follow up chip will be an iMac, but the first M1 machines not only share video memory with the main memory, but also stop at 16GB of total RAM. And sure the performance of them has been impressive, but for heavy pro work Apple had better be doing some form of video card to really push the video end and GPU performance, and we have seen no sign of it, but I would hope that a high end iMac, MacBook Pro, and Mac Pro would have it to push the video performance.

Video editing software needs a separate GPU with it’s own memory, lets hope Apple agrees.

Your GPU is very important with Adobe Premiere, so control your monitor resolution with SwitchResX to save video memory, especially on an iMac or iMac Pro

 

When my MacPro 4,1 finally kicked the bucket I was devastated, especially since the new MacPro wasn’t out yet, and I needed a machine to edit on. The solution was the very powerful iMac Pro with the Radeon Pro Vega 64X 16GB. Now that blew my old video card out of the water, but video editing apps can use every bit of power you have and more, so you want to save as much video processing power as you can.

The problem is that the default settings or even scaled settings on an iMac Pro or even an iMac are made to make the screen look amazing, not save on video memory, and for a long time the OS X control panels have removed the important statistics on the display control panel.

Now if you hover over the choices it tells you what resolution it is like and that scaled resolutions might affect performance, but they don’t tell you what the default resolution is actually doing.

This is where the awesome SwitchResX comes in. The app is $16, or $250 for a site license. It takes a little playing to get it all set up nicely (especially turning off all the resolutions that you don’t want).

It runs in your menu bar, and you can customize to remove all the resolutions you don’t want, but when you go into the iMac Pro or iMac’s resolutions you see where I am going.

You can see I have chosen 2560×1440 which is the normal default resolution, but I have not chosen the HiDPI version. HiDPI is what Apple does to make the monitor look great, it takes your resolution and runs it twice to subsample and make it look better, but basically whatever video ram it is using for your primary display it is doubling it to make the display look nicer.

For a video editor this is a huge no no, don’t waste your video memory, it is precious! Make sure to set your display to a non HiDPI resolution so that you are not wasting your video memory!

Of course this isn’t all that SwitchResX can do, you can actually set different resolutions for different apps and have it change as you switch apps. Now I have tried that out and it worked very well, but I have realized I just like one resolution for my 2 monitors, and try and save as much video memory as I can, so that is why I use SwitchResX, and the less video memory you have the more important this is.

I am assuming this will be the same with M1 iMacs, but they don’t exist yet. If they stay like the current M1 macs and share memory with the mac, then it is even more important to use less memory for your display so that you can use more for editing!

AppleInsider is reporting that a new iMac Pro is going to come out in 2021 with M1 Hardware

 So AppleInsider is saying that a component manufacturer is saying there will be a new iMac Pro in 2021, which is good news. As the article says the iMac Pro could easily have been a stopgap machine while they waited for the new MacPro, but having one I can say I am happy there will be a new one.

It is a powerful machine, and it will answer the question of if Apple is going to have external GPU’s or rely on their on chip M1 Graphics for their Pro machines.

Of course I am on the side of wanting support for PCI based GPU’s, as Apple has does not have any experience making high end pro graphics cards, and I would be much happier having that than a ramped up iPad chip, unless they really ramp it up significantly. I also would like to see video RAM instead of the M1’s shared RAM, which sure is fast, but straight video ram is going to be faster, and better for high end.

Just check out Bare Feats tests on DaVinci Resolve 17.1 Beta 4 (For M1 Macs) that is blown out of the water by an IMac Pro and even more so by a 2019 Mac Pro.

Bare Feats does speed tests on M1 MacBook Pro on DaVinci Resolve 17 and it shows the power of GPUs

 

Bare Feats has run speed comparison tests with DaVinci Resolve 17.0 beta 4 on the m1 MacBook Pro and the 2017 iMac Pro, 2 variations of the 2019 MacPro and the 2013 MacPro.

And the results are not surprising, the M1 currently gets stomped in 4K Noise Reduction by more than 2x, almost 3x for the slowest Mac (the 2017 iMac Pro Pro Vega 64).

And at least currently it seems to show the power of GPU adds to Macs, over what the M1 can do. Now surely the M1 will scale, but we will have to see just how far it goes.

OWC ThunderBay 4 Firmware update did not fix the issue of the drives ejecting

 

So after taking the time to do the upgrade on the firmware on my OWC Thunderbay as I saw in this post on their forums, and shutting down my computer over the night, I restarted and one of the drives disappeared.

Sure SoftRaid managed to fix it in under 10 minutes, but having this happen every restart or wake from sleep is not OK!
So I don’t want to have to do it, but I am going to try turning off Put Hard Drives to Sleep when Possible in my Energy saver to see if I can get around this issue (the post on OWC said that is the issue).

We shall see if that helps. And I have allot of spinning discs that I actually would like to have spin down when possible, but just not have my whole raid go down by dropping drives.
Super frustrating.

Apple updated the iMac today and made the lowest iMac Pro 10 core, are these the last Intel Macs?

Apple upgraded the iMac today with new processors, all SSD (say goodbye to Fusion drives), up to 10 core 10th generation intel processors, AMD 5000 series graphics cards, and the option to have a matte finish for $500. They also got rid of the 8 core iMac Pro, making the bottom model 10 cores, to match the cores of the new top 5K. Still look the same, a new look will wait for Apple Silicon.

Tim Cook mentioned that they still had Intel machines in the works. Is this the last Intel machine before Apple Silicon arrives? It seems likely unless there is one more laptop processor upgrade, but it seems unlikely.

Problems with iMac Pro and OWC Thunderbolt 3 dock and displayport connector

So when I got my new iMac Pro (as my MacPro 4,1 finally bit the bullet) I decided to get an OWC Thunberbolt 3 Dock with 14 ports and 85 watts of power to connect more peripherals to my Mac.

Overall I love Other World Computings products and their service. They are a great company, but the problem with this device for me is the mini displayport.

I have the iMac Pro and an LG 4k 27 inch monitor. I was trying to hook up the LG via the mini displayport in the dock. First I tried an Amazon basics mini displayport cable to displayport cable and it just didn’t work at all.

Then I tried an Amazon basics mini displayport to HDMI connector. This seemed to work, and both monitors worked, but whenever the computer slept the displays and woke back up the second monitor acted as if it was just found, and all the windows that were on it would be moved to the iMac Monitor. Super frustrating especially when using, Premiere Pro, After Effects or DaVinci Resolve across both monitors. The display also did the same thing when I connected or disconnected anything to the dock, including my iPhone or iPad using the front high powered ports, or the SD cards!

I thought maybe it was the connector, so I spent quite a bit more money and went to apple and got the Belkin mini display port to HDMI that they listed since I didn’t see a direct one from Apple. When I got it, it had the exact same problems.

I contacted support, and they got back to me very quickly, and after some back and forth, basically it came down turning sleep off, but I didn’t want to do that, nor turn off let hard drives sleep, as I don’t want to ruin my RAIDs by having them run all the time.

So after being frustrated for a while I went for a USB 3.1 to HDMI adapter, and this I connected to the back of my awesome OWC ThunderBay 4’s Thunderbolt port, and the monitor works great now! Everything (well almost everything, as Messages seems to jump back to the iMac monitor quite a bit) stays on the second monitor when the computer sleeps and I can leave everything going to sleep!

And I can connected and disconnect things with the dock without any issues. The dock works great when I am not using it for it’s mini displayport connector. I am not sure if my dock has an issue with it’s mini displayport, or if this is just an issue with this dock and an iMac Pro, but it is something to know in advance.

Is the apple Afterburner ProRes Video Accelerator card for MacPro going to be available via expansion chassis for iMacPro?

OK so I just got an iMac Pro as my MacPro 4,1 finally fried. And I needed a machine, and just didn’t want to move to windows, so I went iMac Pro.

And I figured I could always add an external video card via thunderbolt if I need to make the system faster, but that new MacPro gave me an idea.

After all it has a PCI card that speeds up ProRES video rendering. Sure it might not be as fast via Thunderbolt 3, but an expansion chasis with a second video card and that ProRES card would be F•••ing AMAZING!!

Come on Apple! Think about it!

Rogue Amoeba blog on the sad state of Mac Hardware

Quentin Carnicelli recently posed a great article on the sad state of upgrades across the whole line of the Macintosh Computers. Basically it comes down to the fact that other than the iMac Pro which came out in December (half a year ago) there isn’t a single mac that has been updated in a year.

This is really a sad state. And the Mac Mini has been almost 4 years without an update or a price drop for old as hell hardware. Macs used to at least get processor upgrades once in a while with the form staying the same, but it seems we are not even getting that anymore.

Apple really has become a phone company that occasionally releases some new computer hardware.

And this makes me worry even more for the supposed new MacPro which we will learn about in 2019! Honestly no computer should take 3 years to design and ship. Especially when what Pros really want is the old cheese-grater with updated hardware. All the hints at a modular design really scares me. I don’t want modular, I want upgradeable with off the shelf PC components. Not some proprietary monstrosity that is upgradeable with over-expensive modules that only follow Apple’s upgrade schedule, which is slow at best. And most of us want some choice, mostly the choice to use NVIDIA graphics cards and not have to run it externally via thunderbolt which is not and never will be as fast as a 16x PCI bus.

It’s December, where is the iMac Pro? And this doesn’t bode well for the Mac Pro!

So after being announced 6 months ago, the iMac Pro is said to be coming out in December. Well it is December 4th and there is no more word on it. In fact we still don’t know any real tech specs on the speed of processors or the like. And we are right at the end of the fiscal year, so if it doesn’t make it out this year, people just might hold off. After all the rumors seem to point to the fact that the processor speed will in fact be much slower than the current iMac 5K, so only being faster in apps that make heavy use of multi-core and faster graphics cards.

And I have to be honest this makes me worry more for the next “modular” MacPro. What the hell is taking so long? I get that the iMac had to have some heavy engineering to fit pro components into the iMac frame (though why it couldn’t have been bigger and easier to clean out I just don’t know). With the MacPro the last time Apple spent so much time on thinking they knew what people wanted and needed we got the un-expandable trashcan which was a disaster. I don’t want Apple to re-invent the wheel here, I want a cheese grater mac with new technology including thunderbolt. And standard off the shelf PCI expansion with USB 3.1. I don’t need it to be Modular, it doesn’t need to re-invent anything. In fact I don’t want it to.

Hell I would go for a bigger version of the cheese grater, with more PCI slots and more RAM slots and more hard drive slots. It could have built in raid with a chasis-less housing for hard drives.

The thing is if it was going to be that it wouldn’t have needed to take 6 months. It could have been done and released by now if that was the case. Apple is trying to come up with something new again, and that scares me.

I had been on the edge of buying a PC to replace my MacPro 4,1, but the announcement gave me hope that my next computer could be a MacPro instead of a Windows Machine, but no word on the MacPro and no word even on the iMac Pro gives me pause.

I don’t think Apple really gets the pro market, and I don’t think they care about it. It is too small of a market (even though it is the market that saved them in the dark years), but they used to understand that it was the pro market’s coolness that trickled down and made people use Macs at home. Now they will string us along and give us something new that we really don’t want. And I am scared that my MacPro may be the last Mac I ever own.